And Yes. A single Naval Yard outputs 2. From the wiki [hoi4. 2. Otherwise the battle lasts until one side is fully. Lovenought • 7 yr. hoi4 isn't an easy game, people opt to play it the easiest way, such as the metaFor port strikes to be executed the bombers have to be assigned to the land region the port is on. ) 1940 tactical bombers are comparable to earlier-tech CAS and only somewhat worse than 1940 CAS in attack (tac-10 versus cas-15), although range starts to narrow somewhat (tac-2500 versus cas-1000). Available for: Naval Bomber, CAS, Tactical Bomber, Jet Tactical Bomber Wings with this mission target enemy ships, both inside and outside of naval battles. ago. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. The British bombers had much lighter armament and gave up day time operations much earlier in the war when fighter escort really was out of the question. assign them to airport. build strategic bomber, no close support, figher, navy bomber, tactical bomber but strategic bomber. Air supremacy shouldn't allow this, but it doesn't work. g. In a multiplayer game this is completely overpowered. TottHooligan • 8 mo. It is the most efficient in responding to the escort needs of convoys. Basically: Heavy fighters are stronger and tougher but can’t hit small fast targets (like fighters). The cost of repairing the bombers is massive and the factories "destroyed" just repair themselves anyway. Heavy fighters have extra range and extra damage (at the cost of agility), so you'd use them when one or both of those stats are relevant. There is no escort mission but the coders can use it in air superiority mission with CAS/bomber presenting, if they want. Feedback gaming just did a video where he was testing plane designs and towards the end he looked a couple ai airplane designs for stat bombers and they were all engines and bomb bays with no air defense or attack. . The second meta is sub3 plus bombers. 1. Nope. Replace all secondaries and spotter planes with AA on the top row as soon as the naval treaty is broken. 8. How do I have my fighters escort bombers? If I send them on air-superiority, they will just roam. R5: I had a theory that if you destroy all airbases in the first week of the war, then their airforce will be crowded in ruined airfields, leaving them extremely inefficient. In HOi4 CV-CAS are your bombers. FakeBonaparte • 3 yr. Typically there's a naval supremacy. Production cost doesnt rlly matter. Then I tried the same on southern England (with air superiority on my side) on port strike mission and naval bombers did nothing again. that is far too many scout planes. Outside of navel combat, CAS can help your ground attack with both air superiority and regular ground attack. If you're using subs to escort, you will still take convoy losses, you will just fight back a bit. They'll do the bulk of your ship damage for the first year or so. And to bomb everything to the ground in each enemy zone. Vote for Suggestion: Remove "random state" infrastructure rewards from focuses and allow us to place the reward upgrades manually Vary the appearance of icons in HoI4 in order to depict unit strength Describe what words or phrases introduce confusion or ambiguity in HoI4. Control of the sea can facilitate naval invasions, or prevent the enemy from performing an invasion of their own. You'll never get enough agility on a strategic bomber to avoid the agility penalty against even the most basic of fighters, and that fact renders defensive turrets rather worthless. In my mind, two key changes should be made to heavy fighters. As I said: Max deck space carriers, fast as possible. Get your Super Heavy Bombers now and use the code OPPENHEIMER'S RICE COOKER and get a 50% discount and some free super jet fighters as long range escorts to shoot down enemy fighter planes that wants to ruin the paint job, and you can also get nose art of the Red Baron and the Night Witches. Your bombers are being intercepted in another air zone, they have 1 agility and you can select which buildings to bomb. Using several fleets like this in an invasion area should keep things safe. Have them only on strategic bombing uncheck all the other tasks. This ship it targets can be anything it wants so it always targets the ship with the highest priorities, capital ships. Port strikes will help too, as the subs will get damaged and return to port. Set you sub fleet to engage at high risk, medium repair priority and enable automatic split off. The first being the actual stats of heavy fighters themselves. 1. This usually happens after a spotting process is complete or opposing fleets move onto the same province. I would agree these units need better soft attack, but that might be a game balance code by PDS. For example: 'Matilda LP'-tank with improved Armor and Main Gun and name it. seriously, that's ridiculous. Go to a nearby airfield and set up a strat bomber airwing. For my first test, I want to see naval bombers vs dive bombers. 1. All the groups will combine into one and your ships will all merge. For patrols, I assign (2) CL and (4) DD. Escort Efficiency belongs to the same family of modifiers but has no effect. Imo the war in the Atlantic is much simpler. Anti air shouldn't be thought of as trying to punish an attack thats what fighters are for its more about mitigating damage. 5. That being said, maintaining Air Force diversity is going to be extremely taxing on both my industry and manpower. 1. 10 CAS per carrier. I am confused about bomber designs. Nervous-Water-358 General of the Army • 7 mo. Heavy fighter has more range, and it has more air defense that a normal fighter, so in a mission that you'd lose like 10 fighter, you might lose 4_5 heavy ones. The point of a navy is to supply and reinforce land troops and keep the enemy from doing the same. Pls help. While that is true, in that planes came about because of Bernoulli's principle, it is also true that Bernoulli forces do not make up the bulk of lift in planes. This sets minimal amount of escorts (purely based on convoys going through the zone) for them to react to threats instantly. Naval bombers, and the things tied in to naval bombers, are the exception to that. Carrier naval bombers on naval bombing missions (the kind where you sit your carrier in the sea and put on the mission manually) also work as usual. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. They struggled to get a good shot at them. if you have them set to a convoy escort mission in a sea zone that any type of convoy is sailing in, if said convoy gets attacked the fleet will intervene asap. This cause to player execute missions like doing strategic bombing with 15,000 strategic bomber which is game-breaking and unrealistic. For the Airships you have the Strategic Bombers and Tactical Bombers. however, a good 2k 1944 strat bombers (and a few nukes if the enemy has too much AA) can bomb an enemy back into the stone age, making the enemy way easier to. ago. But it is doable as, say, United States. RELEASED SGc - Save Game Converter - converts save games to XML format for easy viewing in freeware XML viewers. militaries are specialized in real life for a very good reason. Light fighters without gun upgrades trade poorly against strategic bombers. From what I observed, kill:loss ratios will always be unfavorable until you get radar. Tip There is 6 kind of plane, from left figher: get air supremacy, kill bomber, kamikase. The problem is because air superiority is so impactful for the ground war, it. r/hoi4. The easiest way is form a deathstack with most of your navy and a separate group of subs that you split into smaller raiding groups. In addition to the functions above, navies can also participate in. Note that this is huge drain on resources against subs, with destroyers / DD Escorts being more resource wise. Saudi Fighter Jets Escort US Bombers on 36-Hour 'Show o…If the enemy air region is heavily defended with fighters, the bombers may need to be escorted. Operational Integrity Tactical bombers are flexible and can perform both ground support and regular bombing. Because By Blood Alone changed Tactical Bombers and Heavy Fighters into one research tree the USA now has both a 100% and 300% (!) r esearch bonus for Medium Airframes where previously you couldn't use them on the same tech line. -Actual battlegroups. gunawa. Bombers of allied countries don't get escorted. HoI4 is the most fun I have had in the franchise since Arsenal of Democracy!!! And the DLC you all think is too expensive at. In order to provide this escort, we must design fighter aircraft with bomber range. No design company affects rockets or jets. Also you can put new naval bombers into production with just a few clicks. The default CV plane composition for a level 1 carrier is 22 fighters:22 naval bombers (in general). Best naval bomber design? Tip. I really don't understand the mechanics of the airwar. In terms of air attack versus air defense, HFTR1 have 36 air attack versus STR1's 25 air defense. 6. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Then the torp destroyers kill enemy caps. Air supremacy is useful because it gives you good recon but that advantage doesn't really outweigh the fortune in fighters that had to be spent to win that. Spam naval bombers, bait AI doing patrols with your fleet in contested region within range of bombers. Strat bombers are great at what they do-strat bombing. the best plan, though, is to just remove the enemy fleets attacking your convoys. Set them to convoy hunt. You're correct with the convoy escort, and even if it protected allied shipping too, it's very bad at actually killing subs. Conclusion: CVs are underpowered in this 1. Torpedo damage increase from 14 to 16. 1 heavy skull british ship just wiped out 75 of my naval bombers from 100 engaged in battle. In this guide, we will provide an overview of the air force mechanics in Hoi4 and offer tips on how to use them. Descolata •. Without Bernoulli's principle, fixed wing flight wouldn't be a thing. The Light Airframe onlys allow 1 naval atack module, the the max Naval Atack u can get is 15, with the. Ever wondered which is better in hoi4? Strategic bombers or tactical bombers? well this tutorial im comparing them both 1 on 1 and finding out which is truly. Right click an air zone to assign them to operate there, then pick a mission for them in the top left menu. In this I explain both the Convoy Raiding and Convoy Escort missions, and when a. Like the Comrades already said, the Airships (Zeppelins) were easy to shoot down, because the Ballon are not Armored and the Gas there is not very friendly against Shoots from the Standard-Explosive-Ammo. Less air superiority leads to a lower success rate on air supply missions. Heavy Fighters perform great against unescorted bombers. Japan declared on me, I based by bombers in the Philipenes, and plenty of heavy fighters to cover them, and sent them over Japan. Patrolling to clear the area is not a terrible idea, but it doesn't directly protect the convoys should they be intercepted. CAS and Naval are better on paper. I usually go for 1-1 ratio of fighters and naval bombers. Heavy fighters to escort bombers, light fighters to get dirty with the RAF fighters, and target RAF airfields and RN ports. ago. They then either need to be repaired or auto repaired. Although missions can be assigned at the task force level, the operating area for. I'm curious if thats what the ai designed in your game. . Evening_Base_4749 • 7 mo. tv/71Cloak In this short tutorial esque guide I will show how the current best way to counter the Axis sub spam, as the Allies (specifically the United Kingdom). For patrols, I assign (2) CL and (4) DD. The bombers and escorts get 100% of the Strategic Destruction tree filled out, the defenders get 100% of the Operational Integrity. Naval Bombers are torpedo planes. These flotillas will convoy escort the naval routes you choose. . NAV can also be effective at killing subs, especially when you have a lot of sub detection in the sea zone. Two slots of torpedo twos on a sub is enough to instantly sink a convoy in the first volley if you are lucky. Don't let your navy engage for. Click to expand. (Yellow circle) Doesn't even need to be assigned to the air zone you're nuking. Naval Doctrines Explained Fleet in Being: This is the well-rounded general purpose set of naval doctrines that most substantial navies used. Tested, works against minors only. They destroy nearly every building in a region in a month. When a carrier enters a naval battle, it gets first strike on all other ships (because plane range > gun range). But it is doable as, say, United States. The main advantage of tac bombers overall. We will have the bombers fly from Britain to the Ruhr valley, with the Germans defending. R5: Restored Monarchy as Russia and went to war with the Allies over Poland. Click to expand. To strat bomb, you want strategic bombers, TAC bombers technically can but they're far worse at doing it. Carrier nav bombers are incredibly deadly, and even if focusing on fighters, you should try to include a wing of 10 bombers on every carrier. Escort carriers and ASW light cruisers can b used for ASW as well. Every Tech that unlocks plane modules after the air rework. Edit to link to my cut/paste. After a ton of testing in the new HOI4 DLC and running multiple tests to find the best fighter in Hearts of Iron 4, I have found the best strategic bomber in. This page was last edited on 10 January 2017, at 19:13. If the enemy is utilizing naval bombers, it would be prudent to include anti-air destroyers or light cruisers. This is done with submarines, naval bombers and strategic bombing. variants) that can be produced by dockyards. Lets talk about strat bombers and whether they are good now. This is because you only need to damage the factories by 1% to stop them from producing resources. In 1940, I have around 1000 heavy fighters, 600 tactical bombers and 400 strat bombers. its damn near impossible to defeat a deathstack of infantry, so traditional warfare is really not a good option. Attacking is easy. It's sort of like the difference between a fighter sweep and a fighter escort for bombers. Note that naval bombers still only have a sortie efficiency of 155% (or 165% if the trait for NAV affects sortie efficiency). Current most powerful strategy is combination of strong infantry and strong airforce. However below 50% coverage range on a standard, or high air superiority, the maritime patrol seem much more. You will lose more Men then in a fast Moving and Armored. If you need a good strat-bomber, I. Business, Economics, and Finance. Then put up the fighters in the same region. There are two states, each with level 5 AA in the zone, but the second state is untouched (the bombers appear to be bombing the closest state only). Depth charges are the only way (other than using naval bomber aircraft) to kill submarines. • 1 yr. There are many good counters for strategic bombers. RELEASED SGc - Save Game Converter - converts save games to XML format for easy viewing in freeware XML viewers. Putting ships on the Naval Invasion Support mission to escort your invasion troops would also be helpful. if you dont, then use tacs, better to have a few planes with high mission efficiency than to have more without. In the end enemy won't have factories to repair factories and mil factories to supply troops. *A Fighter-Bomber which benefits from being able to serve multi-roles. —- You can also learn on UK or Japan. Click on airfield. Light fighters, as long as they are. Air trades with subs spectacularly. Escort efficiency is an important metric in relation to convoy escort missions. If you just want to nuke, all you need is a large airframe with a single bomb-bay. AA is a two part check: fleet AA vs all incoming planes, then ship AS vs planes attacking that ship. meaning you can easily bring 400/500 naval bombers/carrier fighters into a naval battle. You can increase air superiority by using scout planes. This will weaken the channel just long enough for you to activate a naval invasion. Send an attache to Spain or china/Japan. Build planes. 3. The cruisers kill enemy screen ships. Strategic bombers are insanely good if they have 100% mission efficiency and air cover. The meta is fighter because of agility. Get an admiral with a high defense stat because it buffs armor. Air Controller - Fighters, CAS or Tactical bombers are always welcome on battlefield, Mass Mobilization Swarm - to hold important ports, cities, provinces and give allies more free factories for something better.